Facebook frenzy

Dal responds to false online allegations of animal cruelty

By Ryan McNutt - August 22, 2007

Facebook removes pages deemed defamatory and fraudulent.  (Abriel photo)

Facebook has removed a group from its service that falsely accused Dalhousie University of killing dogs and puppies in its research.

On Monday, Dalhousie asked Facebook to shut down the group on the basis that it violated FacebookÕs terms of service which forbid the transmission of defamatory and fraudulent information. The group, called ÒStop Dogs and Puppies from being murdered at Dalhousie University," claimed dogs and puppies are being used for scientific and medical research at Dalhousie.

In fact, Dalhousie does not use dogs in any university research.*1  Moreover, the photo used by the group was not taken at Dalhousie University.

ÒThe tipping point, from our perspective, was when the groupÕs creator removed the discussion wall," said Jim Vibert, Assistant Vice-President of Communications and Marketing. ÒOriginally, there was energetic discussion taking place in the group, with several Dalhousie students questioning the accusations. Given the open discussion, we had no problem with the group continuing at that point.

ÒBut when the groupÕs creator took down the discussion wall after people were criticizing the inaccuracies, the content that remained was just flat-out wrong, and thatÕs something that our university simply could not tolerate."

Facebook is CanadaÕs most popular website, a social networking sensation that makes it easy to spread the word about an event or cause. Members of a Facebook group sign up to show their support for a common interest and can post comments, although the creator of this group shut down discussion after "too many complaints from people." The group was created in late July but caught fire last week, gaining more than 15,000 new members. The vast majority of the members appeared to be high school students.

Dalhousie has one of the most stringent systems for monitoring animal welfare in the country. The University Committee on Laboratory Animals (UCLA), which consists of Dalhousie scientists, veterinarians and external community members, approves all proposed projects involving animals in conjunction with guidelines laid out by the Canadian Council on Animal Care (CCAC). These guidelines are followed by all Canadian universities. Dalhousie facilities are monitored by the CCAC in scheduled and unscheduled visits to ensure that optimal standards for the humane care and treatment of animals are maintained.

ÒDalhousie University has always closely followed the guidelines established by the Canadian Council on Animal Care," said University Veterinarian Sylvia Craig. ÒThe ethical and humane treatment of any animals in our care is of the utmost priority."

Carl Breckenridge, Vice-President, Research, emphasized that Dalhousie supports efforts to reduce the use of animals in research, but recognizes that responsible animal research plays a vital role in developing treatments for global ailments such as cancer, AIDS, and Multiple Sclerosis. ÒAny animal research undertaken at Dalhousie is conducted with rigorous attention to high ethical standards and humane care of the animals," he said.

For more information on the University Committee on Laboratory Animals, visit: animalethics.dal.ca

Correction: Since false accusations about Dalhousie research started making their way around Facebook, university staff have been looking through records to ensure the greatest clarity in information. While there are currently no dogs being housed or used in research at Dalhousie, pinpointing the precise time frame for when dogs may have been a part of medical or scientific investigations is challenging. In particular, the length of time between initiating a research program and publishing an academic paper can be years. This makes it difficult to quantify the exact date when the research was conducted.

When the story first broke, the figure Dalhousie was using as the last instance of research involving dogs was roughly a decade ago. Information has since come to light that suggests a date roughly six to eight years ago. Again, since that time, there have been no dogs housed or used for research at Dal.

Readers Say

I'm so happy to read this. Thanks for all your efforts. I had many of my Facebook friends asking me about this. Today, I have enthusiastically posted a link to this article on my Facebook profile and sent it to all my friends who inquired.
-Krista Olmstead
I saw the facebook group and I think it is possible that it was a poor attempt at making an elaborate joke. However, it is good that University has stepped in to clarify things.

-Johny
I was so glad to see this article pop up on my.dal.ca. I questioned this petition after signing it and now I know that Dal is innocent. I'm posting a link to this article as well.
I must say that I am extremely relieved that Dal has pursued this issue. I have worked at Dal for 4 yrs and couldn't believe the accusations from this person. I knew it to be untrue having done animal work myself. Dal works in every way to ensure that the animals are treated with kindness and dignity and no animal suffers. This girl couldn't have seen animals with her own eyes as all areas have access cards for entry only to those who possess one. If she did manage to gain access, then she was either tresspassing on Dal property or someone let her in. Even still, I have not seen dogs used in my 4 yrs here. As for her comment about reading the euthanasia section of the Animal Care Form regarding "Decapitation without Anesthesia", I have NEVER seen one person's protocol be approved for that type of euthanasia within Dal. As was stated above, it is very difficult to get animal protocols approved and several questions are always asked regarding the type of work being done and the type of pain medication being used for the animals. I just wish people would stop jumping to conclusions and get their facts first. Dal is a very distinguised and well recognized university for its medical contributions regarding Parkinson's, cancer research, and those suffering from spinal cord injuries. I hope those that had signed this group change their minds about what they read and try to understand the benefits of this research.
A friend of mine works in the labs cleaning cages and feeding animals that are under experimentation, and although he said there were no dogs in the labs he did relate that cats and kittens are used and in some cases have their eyes sewn shut to see the effect of partial blindness in early brain developement. I personally find it interesting that Dalhousie was very adamant about its lack of use related to dogs but was unclear about whether or not they used the same procedures on other species of animals.
Was this group reinstated?
dal.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3481335439
I notice the wall is back up.
Additionally, I'm concerned that comments posted here must go through a screening process before showing up. One of the problems I had with the facebook group was the censorship - if comments for this article are screened, there is nothing stopping Dal from doing a little censoring of your own. Perhaps it would be better, for a controversial article such as this one, to have an open forum.
Shame on Dalhousie. I am glad someone brought this to my attention. I will NEVER go to your university because of your past and present animal studies. You are a bunch of liar and it came across the TV that all you are doing is a good spin. Glad you have a good spin doctor in Mr. Crosby.
That Facebook group is still up....so why do you say that Facebook shut it down.. Im on it right now!
I think that the biggest problem with this is that it was created by somebody who did not know what was going on. Sure it's freedom of speach to do all of this, yet on the other hand the freedom should reflect facts rather than fiction. Schools i supose now need to make known publicly that they are indeed not scientificly testing on animals.. like a shampoo company.
The group is still up and running. I was not able to take the time to read over everything listed above on this page, but I did go back to the group and it's up to over 20,000 people now.
I completely agree. The arguments posted from that group are based on nothing
but false allegations.
Even though i know this clearly wont be posted,
One of your own teaches basically said you do use animals in testing

Dal works in every way to ensure that the animals are treated with kindness and dignity and no animal suffers

so in other words the animals you use in testing are treated fairly according to you?
Amy tried to speak out about something that she see as wrong just as i will.
Once you can take me on a walk through tour proving you do not use animals in tests, I will withdrawl my support form this group on facebook, and even back you. Untill then i'm going to back this group 100% because you give us no reason other then your word to believe you, and, thats all This group did as well, and, i also want to point out how you only post the comments supporting you.
The disscussion board is up on the facebook group.
Your students are having their say (not that many are speaking out) yet you will not post our comments on your page.
whos not being fair now?
This is just your sad attempt to cover up this bad publicity.
If you were smart you'd spend more time trying to prove us wrong rather then trying to shut us down, Because even if you shut us down, we will find another way back up.
Thres 20 thousand of us at the moment. How many of those do you think would be willing to speak out in public?
I'm very relieved that this has been brought to the attention of the university, and that something has been done about it.

I've since seen that the group has been put up again, and its count of members is once again climbing. Some of my own friends have joined. I sincerely hope that further action will be taken before these lies reach any more ears. Dalhousie has respect and a wonderful reputation, and I'd hate to see it defamed by uninformed sensationalists.
Dal is a bunch of hypocrites. my father was an animal care techniician. i know dal has lied.

SMU rocks !!!!!!!!!!
That group is still going strong spreading their lies, and gaining new oblivious members.

I would really like it if Dalhousie takes legal action against the creator of that group that continues to spread her lies, still taking action to stop discussion on that same group that was supposedly shut down. Preferably being well publicized to show what people get for making such false and hurtful accusations without even pretending to research their claims first.
I would be interested to know what animals are used and what procedures are followed. Stating that "rigorous attention to high ethical standards and humane care of the animals" does not make me feel better. I know what is listed in the law as ethical and it is not ethical in my eyes. If you would specify what exactly is done, it may change some people's minds (even if they are not done to dogs).
Sorry Donna but I dont know where you come off saying "shame on Dalhousie" surely you cant possibly believe that something so ridiculous merely created by some bored unemployed student wasting away their summer vacation could possibly be true. Dalhousie is a great university whether or not something like this was even occuring, and in this case, it is not.
I am confused about the articles posted as links on this facebook groups site. The creator has referenced three separate articles concerning research done with dogs between 2000 and 2005. These are genuine articles that were written by staff members from your university. If Dalhousie has not performed testing on dogs in over a decade why did it take so long for these articles to become published? I am also wondering why this group was reinstated. I have never seen that happen on Facebook so it does make me question the validity of your denials. Facebook is not likely to risk a lawsuit simply to allow a group to continue.
I agree with Lynne. Dal - you seem very secretive.

Stating that "rigorous attention to high ethical standards and humane care of the animals" does not make me feel better either. I would like to see you post exactly what animals in the last 13 years have been used at Dal and by Dal.

Right now I think Dal is hiding a lot. Change my mind Dal.
I also would like a walking tour of the Carlton Animal Facility. And yes I will wear protective clothing to protect myself from the radioactive animals.
Sorry to post again but my previous posts were censored apparently. Why are you censoring post Dal?

Also, why did Dal not mention anything about cats on TV?
Are you admitting officially to that?
Wow! I mean wow! How can people be soooooooooooo naive! I mean if this was actually happening do you really think they could keep it this hush hush!! Then some random woman comes along and blows the top off all of it? It's funny to me. Dal is a great school and I'm proud to go there. Sure, yes, animals are used, but not inhumanely like Amy Scott says they are. Most of the people who have written on the facebook group wall praising Amy are either non dal students or not even from nova scotia, so how would they have any idea as to what is going on. Don't you think the students would know if something like this was happening in their classes & fields of study? People really need to gather their facts correctly and the way the facebook group is going is ridiculous! If anyone tries to stand up for themselves or for Dal they are told that they are ugly and stupid. So not only is the group completly wrong in its accusations it's immature as well!
And how did the group get back up anyways after Dal had it shut down?
On one last note, I'd like to mention something from the facebook group that was posted in a discussion about how Amy's story has since changed from a time when she was walking by and heard the cruelties being inflicted on the "puppies" in the "secret" torture chambers, to a point where she actually worked at Dal and saw this experiments first hand? If she in fact worked there does she think she's the only decent human being who would have a problem with these so-called experiments? Is she the only decent human at Dal? I think not.

Anyways, that's all I have to say on this matter for now and I hope Dal gets this all cleared up and sue sue sue!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally, Facebook should be shut down. It is not up to some under-educated troublemaker who has never even set foot in any research lab to pass false statements which others believe are true. Whatever happened to thinking for yourself? Making your own decisions based on FACTS and not fiction? If people honestly believe that Dal researchers maliciously and unnecessarily murder puppies and kittens, then maybe you should contact the Canadian Council on Animal Care. I am sure they would gladly mail out any information regarding procedures that you are interested in. As well, the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association closely monitors the goings on at all the universities across Canada. Also, Dalhousie is not the only university in Canada to perform animal research. Almost EVERY university does. Nova Scotia Agricultural College has a working research farm. Hello?!?!? Working RESEARCH farm. Atlantic Veterinary College... U of T, Guelph...Don't single out just one. Go for all of them. I dare you. And good luck with the possible lawsuits. You deserve whatever you get.
Who among us is foolish enough to believe this facebook garbage - I support Dalhousie - and to those who claim that this "horribel research" is being carried out - would you volunteer to be the test model for the next new cancer drug or surgical procedure? Are you all vegans who shun all animal products including hides and leather footwear??
why do you guys actually think that these people would even consider giving you a tour? Some of these animal care places have some serious security measures in place just to keep the crazys out, you think that they will just allow anybody to walk in to prove something to you? They have ethical committees, they have nothing to prove.
I just read in 2 news articles (one from Canada.com and one from the Chronical Herald - both access via Google News) that Dal stated that they have only used rodents and insects for the last 10 years. I don't know if the newspapers misinterpreted or if Dal was omitting information, but I know for a fact that Dal uses cats in some of their research.

To make myself clear, I'm on Dal's side in this for sure, as I have worked in animal labs and have NEVER seen any cruelty taking place. However, Dal is going to have a hard time clearing its name (or will make this situation worse) if they hide which animals are being tested or if they let the media publish erroneous facts without immediate correction.
I am personally very concerned with these allegations. First and foremost, I have up until this point been proud of my educational endeavors at Dalhousie. This really tarnishes the reputation of the school and my choice for attending. I really don't want any of it to be true. I know animal testing is legal and I trust that Dal is following the rules... I just wonder if the rules are morally wrong to begin with. Could Dal not be part of the solution, prompting other universities to follow? I for one, as a student, would like a more descriptive explanation for what is going on.
In reponse to Kim Hebert: Please note that the recent CanWest Global article you refer to made an error in stating that "Dalhousie has only used rodents and insects in research...". The reporter acknowledged the mistake and indicated he will correct it where possible. The same reporter in a piece last week noted that "Dalhousie predominently uses rodents and insects" and this is accurate.
I agree with T. Doane and with Darren: show some transparency and prove to us that you're not using puppies and dogs. At least describe who pays for what
animals are used in research, why, and for how long. Is the public privy to your veterinary records for animals used in research? They should be. As a
Dal student, I would like access to the "top quality care" supposedly given to animals in your labs. If nothing else, this could open dialogue into alternatives to animals used in research. It's about time.
To all of these people who are so against animal testing, you are looking at it like Dal would be chopping the heads off peoples cats in the middle of the night - this is definitely not the case. All of the Dal research has to be done ethically. Its the law. Decapitation would probably be in reference to rodents or other small creatures, not dogs or cats. And really, how is any research going to be done in the field of medicine without animals? How else would you plan to study brain development of blind people/animals? Would you like to offer to have you eyes sewn shut? No. I wouldn't expect you to. Vital advances are being made in these fields because of these animals, and there would be no other way. I think most of these people are being naive and most of them don't even go to the University. So people should stop they're ridiculous allegations of Dal. If they were doing something really inhumane, something would have already been done. I fully support Dal and the amazing research they do."
Sure we do valid research at Dalhousie, but we also do some non-valid research that I also oppose. The Animal Ethic's Committee is just for PR. Also we are not forthcoming about any kind of statistic regarding invasive and non-invasive animal studies. We will always refer you to the CCAC and they are ineffective and inaccurate. I am speaking out because there needs to be a lot of changes at Dalhousie.
I am wondering why Dalhousie University updates, on a regular basis, protocols relating to the treatment of animals in testing at the university, including procedures calling for the "use of radioisotopes in live animals". From what I can gather, some of these protocols have been updated within the last year. Why, I wonder, would these protocols be updated and circulated if, if fact, animals are no longer used for experimentation? One of the said documents outlines, for example, where animals are to be procured for experimental use, including (but not limited to) "companion animals" such as dogs and cats. These documents are detailed in their reference to precautions to be followed by staff when handling "research" animals--e.g. "Animals that have been injected with radioactive materials require special housing and handling procedures". [exact quote from the "Occupational Health and Safety Program elated to the Handling of Laboratory Animals, Dalhousie University]. What do these university spokespersons have to say about these obvious "discrepancies?"
I find it intresting how dal refrains to take credit for the abuse they put these animals threw, but yet they will quite quickly take credit for the medical findings of said experiments. As a member of the facebook group in question (which has over 43,000 people) I have checked out the links, which contain the lab reports of what was done and the medical findings. circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/104/suppl_1/I-115 is one of them. Dal has taken credit for the good things that have come out of the experiments, I think they should be forced into taking credit for the ones they harmed. Also I would like to let people know I have started a group on care2 against animal cruelty in nova scotia, I would enjoy if you would take the time to check it out and join.
Thanks
Holly
Why is it that anyone guilty of animal abuse gets off with no more than a slap on the wrist. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. There is no person or animal that wishes awful torturous things would happen to them, so Why Why Why does it keep happening. I do not work or study at Dalhousie. I know nothing of which accusations are true or not, but from what I have seen and read it is quite obvious to me that what goes on at Dalhousie must come to a stop. I hope the poor aniamls whose lives were taken were snuffed out for a good cause, somehow I doubt it. The testing on defenseless animals will never stop if we let this issue slide. How on earth can someone sleep at nite knowing their job is to wake up and go to work to abuse, torture, manipulate and devalue the purpose of life to any living being.
My daughter worked in the Psychology Department on some of the research that was done on the kittens. She was heartbroken when they were all put down. Now she is very active in making genuine progress without using animals. She wonders why Dalhousie is not transparent with the amount of animals they go though on a yearly basis, considering the tax payers pay for the bulk via grants.
We are awaiting an official statement from Dalhousie "pinpointing the precise time frame for when dogs may have been a part of medical or scientific investigations"

We also want to know how many cats are being used this year?

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